Fuel/Water, Bearing/Rust

Del Rykert drykert at rochester.rr.com
Sat Dec 6 05:58:38 AKST 2003


Well I know where my mind goes.?..   <vbg>

    del
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Pastorello" <rcaerobob at cox.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: Fuel/Water, Bearing/Rust


| What's a "bass nipple" ?
|
| Bob Pastorello, Oklahoma
| NSRCA 199, AMA 46373
| rcaerobob at cox.net
| www.rcaerobats.net
|
|
| ----- Original Message ----- 
| From: "Wayne Galligan" <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com>
| To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
| Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:05 PM
| Subject: Re: Fuel/Water, Bearing/Rust
|
|
| > and the bass nipples at the fuel inlets
| >
| > ----- Original Message ----- 
| > From: "Alan Simmonds" <alan at gspceilings.com>
| > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
| > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 12:15 PM
| > Subject: RE: Fuel/Water, Bearing/Rust
| >
| >
| > > Bob
| > >
| > > Don't forget the big brass jet in the Mintor carb.
| > >
| > > Alan
| > >
| > > -----Original Message-----
| > > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
| > > On Behalf Of Bob Pastorello
| > > Sent: 05 December 2003 13:58
| > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
| > > Subject: Re: Fuel/Water, Bearing/Rust
| > >
| > >
| > > Also, most clunks I've seen lately aren't brass-looking.  They
| > > apparently are plated and look shiny-brite metal.  I've drilled some
of
| > > them, to find they're brass underneath.  So that sort of begs the
| > > question, WHY would fuel tank manufacturers add the expense of plating
a
| > > KLUNK ??
| > >     My Mintor setup has no brass that I can see; it will be
interesting
| > > to see how this goes.  Has an MK tank, aluminum tubes, nylon tees in
| > > lines. Plated clunk in the tank.
| > >
| > > Bob Pastorello, Oklahoma
| > > NSRCA 199, AMA 46373
| > > rcaerobob at cox.net
| > > www.rcaerobats.net
| > >
| > >
| > > ----- Original Message ----- 
| > > From: "Brian Young" <b4598070 at yahoo.com>
| > > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
| > > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 7:45 AM
| > > Subject: RE: Fuel/Water, Bearing/Rust
| > >
| > >
| > > > Cant remember if the fuel needed the water in it to
| > > > break down into acetic acid..anyone recall?   ;0
| > > >
| > > > I have had older brass clunks corrode the nipple off
| > > > at the end of the tubing.....I have noticed the little
| > > > green brass particles plugging up the ports on some of
| > > > my engines....always wondered why they used the brass
| > > > for this stuff. I use plastic or aluminum if I can,
| > > > and steel clunk if available.
| > > >
| > > >
| > > > --- Dwayne & Nancy <dwaynenancy at cox.net> wrote:
| > > > > Bob, Joe said that blaming water in the fuel as the
| > > > > cause of bearing
| > > > > rust was a "folk tale".  The cause was the fuel
| > > > > decomposing into acetic
| > > > > acid (vinegar).  The decomposition is caused by the catalytic
effect
| > >
| > > > > of the brass components inside the fuel tank.  Joe
| > > > > tried leaving bearings
| > > > > in several brands of fuel for four months without
| > > > > any rust forming.  You
| > > > > should read the magazine more carefully.  You can't
| > > > > tell when something
| > > > > valuable with show up.  <VBG>  Dwayne
| > > > >
| > > > > -----Original Message-----
| > > > > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
| > > > > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
| > > > > On Behalf Of Bob Pastorello
| > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:25 PM
| > > > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
| > > > > Subject: Re: Fuel/Water, Bearing/Rust
| > > > >
| > > > > Okay - Matt - since my MA already found it's way to
| > > > > the shredder....
| > > > >     WHAT did he say about rust protection?
| > > > >
| > > > > Bob Pastorello, Oklahoma
| > > > > NSRCA 199, AMA 46373
| > > > > rcaerobob at cox.net
| > > > > www.rcaerobats.net
| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > > > ----- Original Message -----
| > > > > From: Rcmaster199 at aol.com
| > > > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
| > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 6:11 PM
| > > > > Subject: Fuel/Water, Bearing/Rust
| > > > >
| > > > > The diatribe of the last week or so on this list has
| > > > > been, shall we say,
| > > > > rather........ interesting, (except for the news
| > > > > about Kirk Gray, that's
| > > > > plain sad). It's time for something new.
| > > > >
| > > > > In this month's Model Aviation, Joe Wagner talks
| > > > > about experiments he
| > > > > has run with a trusty old engine. He ran baseline performance data
| > > > > with his regular fuel and then he added water in his fuel
| > > > > to see how badly
| > > > > performance would be affected. His results where
| > > > > very interesting. Shall
| > > > > we say that he made chopped meat out of that "sacred
| > > > > cow".
| > > > >
| > > > > He also briefly touches on what really is the root
| > > > > cause of bearing
| > > > > rust. Even the uninitiated should find that
| > > > > interesting. Could a
| > > > > solution to all of your OS bearing woes be this
| > > > > simple?
| > > > >
| > > > > There, that ought to whet your whistle.
| > > > >
| > > > > Matt K
| > > > >
| > > >
| > > >
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