2005 Proposed Schedules
Bill Glaze
billglaze at triad.rr.com
Tue Aug 19 08:40:10 AKDT 2003
John: As usual, smart and succinct. Interestingly, (and totally
unknown to you) I was considering going to Masters myself just this
A.M. There's stuff in there I can't even begin to do, but it would be
something different. And, I haven't been to a contest yet where they
turned someone away, regardless of what class they entered. Maybe it's
time to try to figure out the 4-of-8. Look out, Donny Wright, here I
come!!
Bill Glaze
John Ferrell wrote:
> Well put!Bill and I are among the permanent members of the "lower"
> classes. After flying a given sequence a season or so, we see we are
> in an area of diminishing returns. Practice is not the limiting factor
> as to how good we are going to get, our personal limitations are the
> real limits. Changing the sequence regularly does not make us better
> flyers, it makes us frequent flyers. When a pattern flyer loses
> interest in practice, he is a step away from losing interest in
> pattern. Then your contests start having only as many contestants as
> you have trophies. I really don't think the sequence has a lot of
> effect on the rising pilots. They are going to make their way through
> the permanent members of the "lower" classes regardless. I frequently
> think about just moving on to Masters anyway. It won't make any
> difference in the trophy collection, it costs the same, and the
> scenery changes occasionally. Also, then I would not have to judge
> it! May be I will do that.... It sounds better all the time.... I
> wonder what happens if we all do that?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dan Curtis
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 5:10 PM
> Subject: Re: 2005 Proposed Schedules
> Bill, I feel your pain <--best Clinton impersonation. It
> is really hard to believe that our schedule system within
> NSRCA and through AMA is so entwined with complexity and red
> tape. The idea of stepping stones from class to class is
> fine however the schedules could still be changed
> periodically. Many of the Int. and Adv. flyers that I know
> are going to be pretty disappointed, they were looking
> forward to a change in 2005 and yes I realize that they were
> thinking erroneously but some just started with in the past
> 15 months. Dan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Glaze
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 2:34 PM
> Subject: Re: 2005 Proposed Schedules
> Dan:
> If the Annex Proposal passes, (vote to be held
> later) that means that we of the Great Unwashed
> Advanced and Intermediate Classes will be on the
> same footing as the Masters. Sure hope it passes;
> I get so tired of practicing the same old 6's and
> 7's time after time. Would like some different
> 6's and 7's!<G>
>
> Bill Glaze
>
> Dan Curtis wrote:
>
> > Thanks Troy, Don't know how I got the idea that
> > more than the Masters Sequence would change. I
> > thought all the classes were on a three year
> > cycle now after the Masters having the little
> > two year bump in the flow. >From the questions
> > I get at some of the contest it seems that many
> > flyers in Int. and Adv are expecting a change,
> > oh well. I also thought that the *03 schedule
> > was history with in FAI after the World Champ.
> > Figured that they would have it all finalized
> > and ready to go. Any idea when a final version
> > will be up and running? ThanksDan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Troy Newman
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 9:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: 2005 Proposed Schedules
> > Dan.... Only proposal is for a
> > Masters class schedule change.... But
> > if the annex system gets passed then
> > the NSRCA has the ability to change
> > things all the time....Hopefully the
> > annex system if passed has enough
> > checks and balances on it...I really
> > don't like the idea....but then again
> > I don't fly AMA pattern so you guys
> > enjoy.... As for the P-05 and F-05 I
> > believe there are some things that are
> > needing clarification from the CIAM
> > committee....so it will
> > change.....Also there is not an
> > official Aresti diagram of the new
> > sequences for P-05 and F-05 as of
> > yet.....I have seen a "french version"
> > that many have been sending
> > around....It contrary to the word
> > descriptions on a couple things
> > ...According to one of our overseas
> > list watchers there are many changes
> > to the sequences and they will be
> > published....they just are not
> > available yet.... I can send you the
> > Plenary meeting notes and the proposed
> > sequences for 2005 and 2007 from the
> > F3A group but I don't think these are
> > final yet. By the way I have been
> > flying both the P and F's for both
> > 2005 and 2007 and that's how I know
> > there are some
> > inconsistencies...descriptors and
> > aresti's as well as descriptors and
> > maneuvers names not matching up
> > 100%... Troy
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dan Curtis
> > To: NSRCA Discussion
> > Sent: Friday, August 15,
> > 2003 10:23 PM
> > Subject: 2005 Proposed
> > Schedules
> > Can someone guide me to
> > list of the proposed
> > schedules for 2005. All
> > classes. I believe it was
> > posted on the list referring
> > to the AMA site but alas I
> > have had no success in
> > finding them. Thanks Dan Oh
> > also the link I had for the
> > ribbon drawings for the PO5
> > and F05 schedules does not
> > seem to be working. Anyone
> > got a good one for these
> > drawings. Thanks again Dan
> >
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