FAI F3AL---Pattern IMAC combined

[Del Rykert]

Jon.
 
    I wonder if you are NSRCA certified judge. A simple thing of catching horizontal leg of top hat being done upright can earn a pilot a zero and if other judge didn't catch it give a decent score.
     
    Del

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Woodward James R Civ 412 TW/DRP/ACQ 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:19 PM
  Subject: RE: FAI F3AL---Pattern IMAC combined


  Hi Jon,

  I've been getting the "gloom & doom" or alternate-agenda feeling while
  reading your posts.  Mostly because the experience I've had with pattern
  seems to be really different.  Last year alone I went to 13 contests, this
  years is going to total around 10 or so (including 4 years in a row for the
  nats). Previously in District 3, I did not experience these type of issues
  either.  

  Each district has yearly or bi-yearly judging seminars which are intended to
  train and "certify" judges.  The NSRCA has years of service and effort
  regarding the training and certification of judges.  Quite frankly, there is
  very little to no IMAC bashing done on this list. Subtlety though, an
  imaginative fellow always seems to work it in.

  Jim W.




  Marty,

  I'd be the first to say that I am a rookie in both IMAC and Pattern.  But so
  far it as been my experience that IMAC judging is much more consistent than
  pattern.  I was scored a "0" and "8.5" on the same looping maneuver at a
  contest. Now I know that as long as humans are judging, there will be
  differences, but 0 to 8.5 is a lot.

  Also, I went to the NATS this year and watched Intermediate, Advance,
  Masters, and FAI.  With the exception of the FAI, I'd say several pattern
  fliers can't fly a straight line either (and this was not a local contest,
  but the NATS).  I really don't see what the big deal is about the NATS
  anyway.  Do you have to qualify to make the NATS or just pay your $90 bucks?
  There are several of us, IAMC and Pattern boys alike, that need to work on
  flying straight lines.

  IMAC is at least making an effort with the judging issue by having judge
  seminars around the country.  They are very informative and worth while.
  The only effort that I have seen in the pattern world is the judging tape
  that I borrowed from a friend.  The tape, in my opinion, was not very clear
  cut on scoring and I think it shows in the results that I have seen at a
  contest.

  Once again, I will say that I have only been to one contest and wish to gain
  more info as time goes on.

  So far I love the beauty, learning curve, and friendship offered by both
  groups, but I have to say, the mentality, living in the past attitude, us
  VRS them, and bashing is making it hard enjoy both.

  Jon


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