Electric Pattern

[Henderson,Eric]

I featured Joe's plane two years ago in my Nat's report. I watched it fly this year. It was not competitive, but Joe had fun.

My own opinion is as follows:- I would have liked to have seen Jason's plane at the Nationals so that I could make an informed opinion. Chip took his chances and flew his Bi-planes at the team trials and the Nat's. We got to see the capabilities of the plane, (Not just the pilot). He also debugged a loose stab and some YS crankshaft prototype counter-weights. Jason's electric is a huge unknown in a competitive situation. As a person who has contributed energy, written effort and personal finance to the support of our team, I am much more comfortable with Chips approach. How I see this has nothing to do with rules and rights but much more the issue of obligations to those who ran team trials, raised funds, and sat in the judges chairs.

I do however value and respect the opinions offered to my original question. They all have their own merit and may influence future conduct or even US F3A selection behavior.

Regards,

Eric.

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[mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Woodward James R Civ
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Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:32 AM
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Subject: RE: Electric Pattern


All,

I think this is an example of someone flying an electric in the "NATS" for
the sake of publicity.  I'm sure Joe Gross is a great person, but his plane
had no business on the FAI line at that level of flying.  It had no
resemblance of a pattern plane in either looks or performance.  It looked
like a Great Planes Slow Poke with a fun-fly wing.  Before you think I'm
joking, find a picture on the internet somewhere.  The performance of it
during the two rounds I witnessed showed nothing desirable.  In fact, as
this thread arose, my first thought was that I was sure that Jason S. was
going to represent pattern and electrics a little better then this effort.

I'm also sure that Jason's drive to win far outweighs risking a tanked
performance at the Worlds.  The odds are probably higher that Chip's biplane
will fall apart for some unknown reason.

Jim W.


-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Terrenoire [mailto:amad2terry at juno.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:30 PM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: Re: Electric Pattern


Eric: Joe Gross was flying an electric at the NATs, for a second year.
This year he was using a set of batteries that cost $600, but would give
him over 50 minutes of flying time on his pattern ship. He had the
capability of flying 5 rounds without recharging!!
When I talked to him, he said his next step was to fit the system into a
full blown 2 meter ship. Guess Jason is beating him to the punch!!

Terry T.

On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 21:23:29 -0400 "Henderson,Eric"
<Eric.Henderson at gartner.com> writes:
> I would be most interested in which  cells being used and which 
> Hacker. I have a fairly capable electric pattern but it only lasts 5 
> minutes on 20 cells..
> 
> Also charging of the li-poly's? is not known to me etc..
> 
> Eric.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Zapata, Lisandro
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:40 PM
> To: 'discussion at nsrca.org'
> Subject: RE: Poland - electrics
> 
> 
> Who said that electric technology is not proven:
> check Jason 'fliying silent'
> http://www.rccraze.com/newpattern.mpg
> 
> What I see is more than enough power. which is what mater for power 
> plant.
> Arturo
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: juhler at bellsouth.net [mailto:juhler at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:49 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: re: Poland - electrics
> 
> 
> Dave,
> 
> Yes.  They are there cause how well they flew.  What I am saying is, 
> I think
> it is wrong for them to use proven method's to get to the show, then 
> switch
> out equipment to highlight a new technology or to meet sponsor needs 
> after
> getting there. 
> 
> I guess basically what I am saying, is; it is not fair to the guys 
> they beat
> out by using their normal equipment, then risking a poor showing at 
> the
> world to display new technology.  If the new technology is such a 
> good idea,
> and will not hurt them performance wise, then use it to get to the 
> worlds,
> not just at the worlds.
> 
> Just my opinion.
> 
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