S.S.Bearing- What to Do about it??
patterndude at comcast.net
patterndude at comcast.net
Tue Aug 5 14:15:35 AKDT 2003
You found roller bearings that fit an OS140RX??? Please provide a reference.
THis would be an amazing find. I disagree with you that these wouldn't handle
the thrust load. On the contrary, our bearings carry almost no thrust load.
They handle radial load almost entirely. I would think a roller bearing would
be a great solutions. As evidence to this conclusion, look at what Zenoah,
Desert Aircraft, and other gas engine mfg do - they use roller bearings. These
engines are designed for far more life than modelers put on them and the
bearings are never changed.
--Lance
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> In a message dated 8/5/03 4:18:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, rcaerobob at cox.net
> writes:
>
> >
> > Assuming that OS doesn't offer a solution to lubrication of the rear bearing
> > on the 1.40, what other options are available?
> > What mods could be made to the crankcase to permit more oil flow back
> > there?
> > Would increasing oil content of fuel make any difference?
> >
> > If the real core problem is undersizing of the bearing for the load
> > application the motor endures, then a real fix would be a redesign of the
> crankcase
> > to use a larger and wider bearing. Pretty unlikely that would happen, I would
> > guess.
> > So what's the solution besides keeping the bearing suppliers
> > well-funded??
> >
> > Bob Pastorello, Oklahoma
> > NSRCA 199, AMA 46373
> > <A HREF="mailto:rcaerobob at cox.net">rcaerobob at cox.net</A>
> > <A HREF="http://www.rcaerobats.net/">www.rcaerobats.net</A>
> >
> >
>
> Continued - A larger bearing is a double edged sword, larger bearing means
> larger balls and larger diameter races and thus higher surface speed, between
> the balls and races at a given RPM. I'm not enough of a mechanical engineer to
> say where the trade off is, but I know in other engines larger bearings have
> not solved the problem (OS .61). The solution is a tapered/timpkin bearing,
> I've tried to find a match, but no success, the problem is that we are using a
> ball bearing in the wrong application, auto manufactures tried this for years
> on wheel bearings, tapered bearings solved the problem. I can get roller
> bearings that fit, but they will not stand the thrust load. Again, stainless
> has
> worked for me, several different engines and I have a lot of data/experience,
> many thousands of flights on mine and others engines, most recently the OS 140
> and believe me I've tried all the "fixes" Interestingly I just changed the
> bearing in a new OS 140 RX, just because it had 140 flights and I was planning
> to go to a contest this weekend, bearing seemed fine. Turns out that it is a
> stainless bearing, with the seals removed (I've never found a stainless without
> seals). The bearing was fine, no corrosion, I jumped the gun. No for the
> rest of the story I had this engine apart for other reasons and it was a year or
> so back so it's possible that I just changed the bearing because I was in
> there, but I think I would remember and I keep pretty good records so that is a
> doubtful answer. It will be interesting to see it the new engines start
> showing up with stainless bearings or if this was a fluke, maybe they were out
> of
> bearings at the factory and used the bearing from the EFI or...
>
> Bob
>
> Bob
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