Pattern Fun / scribe

[Tony Stillman]

Dave:

It is a problem, that's for sure.  Usually, at least in local contests,
contestants generally judge the same class.  That is, FAI usually judges
Masters and vice versa.  Intermediate usually judges Advanced, and vice
versa.  This way, it is pretty easy to "learn" the pattern.  You will find
that you won't have to memorize it, especially if you get the pilot's caller
to call the manuevers out loud enough to hear it.  Sure, they will make a
mistake and call out the wrong manuever sometimes, but it is almost always
caught by at least one of the judges.

If I am in a situation like that (as a judge), I will write down a score for
the manuever along with a question mark.  At the end of the flight, I will
ask the other judge about the manuever, not to get his/her opinion of their
score, but to find out it what I suspected was correct.  This will almost
always solve the issue.  If it does not, I write "not Observed" and let the
computer people average the score from the other judge(s).

Not a perfect system by any means, but it is BETTER than missing parts of
manuevers all the time by looking down, IMHO.

As pilot/judges, we need to WORK on our judging practices, just like we work
on flying our manuever schedules.  We need to be able to do a good job at
BOTH before we head out to a contest.


Tony Stillman
Radio South, Inc.
3702 N. Pace Blvd.
Pensacola, Fl 32505
www.radiosouthrc.com
800-962-7802
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Harmon" <k6xyz at attbi.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 7:30 PM
Subject: RE: Pattern Fun / scribe


> Plus decode the way the manuevers are written....for me, that's very
> difficult and confusing.
> To say nothing of being a real pain!
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
> On Behalf Of Del Rykert
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 8:20 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org; vanputte at nuc.net
> Subject: Re: Pattern Fun / scribe
>
>
> How do you memorize all the different classes of maneuvers? I can't
> memorize my own let alone all the others.
>
>      Del K. Rykert
>      AMA - 8928
>      NSRCA - 473
>      Kb2joi - General
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Van Putte" <vanputte at nuc.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 6:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Pattern Fun / scribe
>
>
> > I don't use a scribe and I never look down.  I use a legal size
> > clipboard and a long legal pad to record the scores.  Then I transfer
> > the scores during the landing approach.  You can't do that?  Pity.
> > I've been doing it for years.
> >
> > Ron Van Putte
> >
> >
> > George Kennie wrote:
> >
> > > Right On!, James!
> > > That's exactly why I wont sit in the chair without a scribe! G
> > >
> > > Woodward James R Civ 412 TW/DRP wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>You may have your own opinion on scribes or no scribes.  BUT, do
> > >>this at
> the
> > >>next contest.  Fly your round, then sit back and watch another flyer
>
> > >>in
> YOUR
> > >>class.  Whatch his flight real close, and I'm sure you'll pick out
> > >>some errors, then, quickly look at the judges and notice which of
> > >>the judges
> did
> > >>not see the error, because their head was obviously down, and
> > >>looking at
> the
> > >>paper.  Then, realize that if you judge and look down to write
> > >>scores,
> that
> > >>you probably miss something from that flight as well.  At the last
> contest,
> > >>I watched 1 judge who consistently missed the first two points of
> > >>the inverted 4-pt roll, because they were looking down at writing
> > >>the score
> from
> > >>the full-roll 1/2 outside loop.  How the heck can you judge the 4-pt
>
> > >>accurately, if you miss the entry (wings level?  heading?
> > >>decending/climbing?), first roll rate, etc? Not to mention all other
>
> > >>manuevers.  No judge should be looking down during any flight, from
> > >>sportsman to FAI.  Tough issue....
> > >>
> > >>Jim W.
> > >>
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: John Ferrell [mailto:johnferrell at earthlink.net]
> > >>Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:52 AM
> > >>To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > >>Subject: Re: Pattern Fun
> > >>
> > >> (Can't see how you can judge FAI or Masters without a scribe.) You
> > >>don't have to keep the clipboard in your lap!
> > >>
> > >>John Ferrell
> > >>6241 Phillippi Rd
> > >>Julian NC 27283
> > >>Phone: (336)685-9606
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