Outside the 9 dots - again

[Henderson,Eric]

Del this is the same number of judges as we use today at local contests.
Were you responding to a different note?

Eric.

-----Original Message-----
From: Del Rykert [mailto:drykert at rochester.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 2:19 PM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: Re: Outside the 9 dots - again


Not 2 b a Smart a** but will this leave anyone to fly? It does sound like a
great solution and has merit except for the real shortage of manpower when
you CD a contest.

    Del

----- Original Message -----
From: "Henderson,Eric" <eric.henderson at gartner.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 9:22 AM
Subject: Outside the 9 dots - again


> If we copy FAI worlds judge team methodology we could use three judges.
>
> A version of this would be:-
>
> One judge who sits at the left and judges right hand turnarounds. One who
> sits at the right and judges left side turnarounds. And one in the middle
> who only judges center maneuvers.
>
> NO SCRIBES REQUIRED at all!
>
> If you use two judges then do one turnaround judge and one center judge.
You
> could swap the rolls in the next round and have, in essence two new
judges.
>
> The system gives you time to read the next maneuver, judge the maneuver
and
> score it at your leisure. It also allows less confident judges, (to get
> their feet wet, to judge higher level turnaround maneuvers with a more
> experienced judge on the center.
>
> Anyone want to try it out at their next contest. BE BOLD
>
> Regards,
>
> Eric.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Woodward James R Civ 412 TW/DRP
> [mailto:James.Woodward2 at edwards.af.mil]
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 12:08 PM
> To: 'discussion at nsrca.org'
> Subject: RE: Pattern Fun / scribe
>
>
> You may have your own opinion on scribes or no scribes.  BUT, do this at
the
> next contest.  Fly your round, then sit back and watch another flyer in
YOUR
> class.  Whatch his flight real close, and I'm sure you'll pick out some
> errors, then, quickly look at the judges and notice which of the judges
did
> not see the error, because their head was obviously down, and looking at
the
> paper.  Then, realize that if you judge and look down to write scores,
that
> you probably miss something from that flight as well.  At the last
contest,
> I watched 1 judge who consistently missed the first two points of the
> inverted 4-pt roll, because they were looking down at writing the score
from
> the full-roll 1/2 outside loop.  How the heck can you judge the 4-pt
> accurately, if you miss the entry (wings level?  heading?
> decending/climbing?), first roll rate, etc? Not to mention all other
> manuevers.  No judge should be looking down during any flight, from
> sportsman to FAI.  Tough issue....
>
> Jim W.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Ferrell [mailto:johnferrell at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:52 AM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: Pattern Fun
>
>
>  (Can't see how you can judge FAI or Masters without a scribe.)
> You don't have to keep the clipboard in your lap!
>
> John Ferrell
> 6241 Phillippi Rd
> Julian NC 27283
> Phone: (336)685-9606
> Dixie Competition Products
> NSRCA 479 AMA 4190  W8CCW
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>
>
>
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