More on 40/60/90 Pattern

Tomanek, Wojtek tomanekw at saic-abingdon.com
Thu Sep 5 06:59:52 AKDT 2002


Use scaled down wings from sequel or prophecy.  Typhoon wings are too big.
Or get one of the new pattern type ARFs.

Wojtek


	-----Original Message-----
	From:	JEAN PAUL SAURE ROECKEL [SMTP:jpasaure at telsur.cl]
	Sent:	Wednesday, September 04, 2002 12:03 PM
	To:	discussion at nsrca.org
	Subject:	More on  40/60/90 Pattern

	   Hi everyone, greetings from Chile!
	   
	   I want to move on to "advanced" pattern. (Here in Chile we only
	fly novice, advanced and F3A) 
	   I'd like to build a nice plane for my Saito72. (I don't want to
	get a .91 engine, I'll wait more and get a Webra145 for a 2m plane
	later)

	   So, I have an engine that pulls more than my former 46FX but less
	than a 90. I think the available 40 size models are too small and
the
	60/90 too big. Here's my idea:


	  I'll take the typhoon 2000 plans, reduce them to 77% (60.5",
	694sq.in.) and use an eppler 168 airfoil on the wing (1-piece, of
	course). For the landing gear, I'd use fixed aluminium gear on the
	fuse. Dry-weight should be under 2.5kg (5.5lb).


	  Questions:

	         - Does it sound good?? (Or at least would work better than
a
	Tracer46, Venus, Spectrum or Tai-ji.40??)

	         - I'd build the tail group flat. Any suggestions for
	airfoils on the stabs? Would I get any clear benneffits on an
	airplane this size?

	         - Would retracts work better? There's a lot of weight
there!
	    

	      Thanks a lot for your comments/suggestions!!!
	   


	        Jean Paul Sauré
	 Club de Aeromodelos de Concepcion


	---- Original Message ----
	De: HSTMatt at sbcglobal.net
	Para: discussion at nsrca.org, 
	Asunto: RE: 60/90 Pattern - Thanks!
	Fecha: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 07:46:28 -0700

	>Hi Everyone,
	>
	>I'd like to thank everyone who responded to my questions about
60/90 
	>size pattern airplanes. Several very good suggestions out there.
	>
	>I think after I finish the 2 meter all wood Typhoon 2000 that Mike 
	>Hester is helping me (over the net) build I may take the plan to 
	>Kinko's and have them reduce it to a 60/90 size airframe and build
a 
	>smaller version. The only draw back I see is the cowl, I'll have to

	>build it out of wood or make a mold and lay up my own, either way
it 
	>will work.
	>
	>Lots of replies concerning the various available ARF's in this
size, 
	>but I prefer to build my own, however the effort is very much 
	>appreciated.
	>
	>I'm also interested in Buddy's new design and I'm looking forward
to 
	>seeing his drawings. The amount of replies I received was GREAT! 
	>Lot's of help out there.
	>
	>I plan to set up a web site soon to document (for those interested 
	>in building) my efforts in this area and will post the address when

	>it's ready.
	>
	>Thanks Again!
	>
	>Matt
	>
	>

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