AMA rules-what are we doing?

[Thomas C. Weedon]

Del,
Sorry to here about your area. However, the facts show that pattern is on
the upswing around here. That's all I can handle. I do plan to see you in
Buffalo this June, and I'll be at Chatham, Ont. in Aug. BTW, that's not too
far for you to drive. Ken Valez and Bev Cowell were there this last year.
Had a great time. Even learned how to speak Canadian, eh? <smile>
Tom

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[mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Del Rykert
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:01 PM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: Re: AMA rules-what are we doing?


Tom.

    Great to hear that things are on the upswing for you and your district.
Maybe Canada doesn't count for you but the contests I used to attend are
down by three by my last count. Attendance at this years contest was down
except for Ken Kehners contests in Glen,NY. I can't speak for the rest of
the district as I haven't made the long drive. At todoays cost of
competitive aircraft when you lose one due to a midair it takes people out
of competition sometimes for the major part of the year. As you know we had
more than our share this last year and that contributed to some loss in
attendance. That to some degree will be back next year. Also hopefully Elba
will be able to pull off a contest again in 2003. Have to wait and see as we
are struggling with field issues. I haven't heard if the cancelled Canadian
contests are going to be back in 2003 or not.

    To claim that things are going well when the facts show to the contrary
isn't healthy either IMHO.

     Del K. Rykert
     AMA - 8928
     NSRCA - 473
     Kb2joi - General
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas C. Weedon" <weedon at wwnet.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:26 AM
Subject: RE: AMA rules-what are we doing?


> Del,
> Let me add what I have said before that Pattern is not declining, at least
> not around here. The NSRCA membership is down, that's true, and I've said
> before that I believe that the cause was the continuing increase in dues.
> However, in D4 we seem to be enjoying a growth spurt in Pattern,
especially
> in the number of contests. Also, we have had good numbers in the Sportsman
> Class this last year. I've said this before, many times on this list.
Seems
> no one listened as the talk is still about declining numbers. Let me ask
> again, "WHAT DECLINING NUMBERS?"  Shucks, the Pattern Nats is bigger then
> ever. We have more contests. We have more Sportsman entrants than before.
> Will every one PLEASE get off this thing about DECLINING NUMBERS, and
start
> looking at what's going right?
> Tom W.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Del Rykert
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 11:21 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: AMA rules-what are we doing?
>
>
> Hi Tom....
>
>     I realize it is not a truly scientifically accurate survey but I do
> believe it has more credence than guessing amongst ourselves why some have
> left or choose not to compete. I realize we will never be the largest SIG
in
> the world nor do I think we should be trying to go there. What I do have
> concerns about is the declining numbers that aren't being replaced if the
> sport as it is currently designed is going to thrive. Time constraints for
> some are in conflict with the complexities that the sport has risen to.
I'm
> certain that has contributed to some of the decline. I know it has hurt my
> participation the last couple of years.
>
>      Del K. Rykert
>      AMA - 8928
>      NSRCA - 473
>      Kb2joi - General
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas C. Weedon" <weedon at wwnet.net>
> To: "NSRCA Discussion List" <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 1:52 AM
> Subject: AMA rules-what are we doing?
>
>
> >
> > Del,
> > Let me caution you that Bob's "on-line" survey is not a true random
survey
> > and therefore can not be representative of the opinions of a general
> > population. A true and accurate survey would sample an entire, fixed
> > population, take the responses (however many there are) and then
generate
> > the statistics. This would be an accurate, scientific polling. What
Bob's
> > survey did discover is reasons which can then become the substance of an
> > accurate survey of a controlled population. That's the only way you'll
> ever
> > know for sure.
> > After all the work is over, I still bet that most people are just not
> > interested, and they'll invent reasons, if need be, to make their
argument
> > sound more reasonable. Pattern flying is just not, nor ever will be, a
> > popular sport enjoyed by a large minority of RC flyers.
> > Tom W.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
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> > Behalf Of Del Rykert
> > Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:03 PM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: Re: AMA rules-what are we doing?
> >
> >
> > Is this a time when we should take a serious look at the results of Bob
> P's
> > survey?  If we consider those results as possible fact and realize we
have
> a
> > perception problem then shouldn't we address the perception issues,
> whether
> > real or not.
> >
> >      Del K. Rykert
> >      AMA - 8928
> >      NSRCA - 473
> >      Kb2joi - General
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