AMA rules-weight, gasers?

Gray E Fowler gfowler at raytheon.com
Thu Nov 14 08:49:39 AKST 2002


Gene,

Do you have a picture profile of yourself that I can put in MY plane?



Gray Fowler
Principal Chemical Engineer
Composites Engineering




gene.maurice at attbi.com
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Lance,

You and Gray are both starting to sound like me. That's real SCARY!!!!!!

--
Gene Maurice
gene.maurice at attbi.com
NSRCA 877
AMA 3408
> Tom, 
> I was disappointed in reading your detailed and informative message. How 

> dare you inject logic and reality into an otherwise oblivious 
discussion. 
> Many people have commented that the current rules are like a house of 
> cards.  If the weight limit changes, then we won't be able to control 
> ourselves and all our rules (the other 2) will have to be changed too. 
> Plane size and noise limits will get out of control.  New aerodynamic 
laws 
> will be discovered that will force completely new designs that can only 
be 
> made from exotic materials.  All current equipment will become obsolete.
> 
> What has worked well in Australia has a high risk of failing here.  The 
> equator reverses logic.
> 
> Sorry guys, maybe I didn't sleep well last night <G>.
> --Lance
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Koenig, Tom" <Tom.Koenig at actewagl.com.au>
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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> As most of you know I'm down here in Australia. I've been reading all 
your
> posts regarding weight limits etc etc. The discussion seems to be quite
> tiring to be honest.
> 
> I dont understand something here...is the 5  kg limit also one of your 
AMA
> rules????
> This just isn't an issue down here unless you want to fly FAI class.
> Our governing body is the MAAA, we have a 7 kg weight limit, aircraft 
over
> 7kg must be inspected by a certified inspector before they are issued a
> certificate/ cleared to fly. This covers many aspects, construction etc.
> 
> In pattern, we apply the 5 kg limit, 2 x 2, for FAI only....the other
> classes it just isn't an issue. They can fly what they like, it just so
> happens that in all the years, I have yet to see even a newbie turn up 
> with
> something monstrous.
> 
> They tend to show up with 60 size planes, 40's even 20's and 
occasionally
> you get one with all the bells and whistles, 2 x 2.
> 
> This issue was dead and buried down here years ago.
> 
> I just Co-CD'd our State champs and we had 40 entries, 11 or 12 in FAI, 
> the
> rest spread pretty evenly across the remaining three classes. This was 
> with
> up to 10 regulars absent!!! Pattern is alive and kicking down here, but 
I
> must admit we have had our lulls as well.
> 
> Now I find it interesting about the gaser developments you guys are 
> talking
> about. Correct me if I'm wrong as I dont have access to my FAI rule book
> here...but Gassers are not permitted in the FAI rule book, I thought it
> states somewhere about Methanol only in the  F3A section??
> 
> So again...this is FAI only..or is this issue going to be a problem for 
> the
> American market, what are your AMA rules on this??
> Just be aware guys, you could be flogging a dead horse here too, the FAI 

> is
> a world wide organisation, the US has one vote, just like the rest of 
the
> member countries.
> I cannot however see a reason why your AMA cannot define its own rules 
to
> cover its members for its market/area...do what you like for all other
> classes, but if you wanna play FAI, you gota play with the rest of the
> world, simple as that.
> 
> Hope I didn't offend anyone, I just dont see what the problem is ( I am
> however unaware of your AMA rules)
> 
> Tom
> 
> Canberra - Australia
> 
> 
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