Weight Limit problem long

[John Gausby]

Bill......$150 for a top-of-the-line radio? That must have been prior to the
60's. I was talking about a 4-6 channel digital propo radio.
ie.Kraft,Proline,EK Logitrol,Bonner,Orbit,F&M,Min-X etc. Even back in mid
60's.....a Space Control or Dee Bee Quaduplex (analog) was aprox. 300 to $400.
They were mostly hand made......When did you start in competition?????? 




On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:58:58 -0600 Bill Glaze <billglaze at triad.rr.com> wrote:

> Cost? Interesting to contemplate.  When I
> started in competition, (not called
> pattern at that time) the best radio you could
> buy was $150, the materials to
> build a competitive airplane were $15 or less,
> servos were ~ $15 each, (4 req.)
> and the engine that everyone used was $14.95
> NIB from your friendly dealer.
> However, I was making less than $10,000 per
> year.  (and living very well,
> thanks.)
> It's my belief that folks are either interested
> in competing in a hobby activity,
> or they aren't interested.  Many feel that
> their work is competitive enough to
> match their overall lifestyle; they feel they
> don't need it in their hobby.  I
> also feel that you need to know someone as more
> than just a casual acquaintance
> before you find out the real reason they aren't
> competing.  If you can get past
> their own personal fence, then maybe--just
> maybe--you can get them interested.
> And then again, maybe not.
> After all, it's a huge hobby.
> 
> Bill Glaze
> 
> John Gausby wrote:
> 
> > I have to agree with Anthony on this one. I
> don't think cost is the major
> > stopping point for the newcomer.
> >
> > >From what i see...It's the fear of
> competition thing. The fear of experts
> > judging your flying. That FIRST contest often
> softens that fear , but getting
> > a newbie to try that first contest is a big
> hurdle.
> >
> > I don't ever remember pattern being
> inexpensive. Even back in the 60's and
> > 70's a new radio was 300 to 500 bucks. A good
> .60 was 100 to 200. Rhom
> > retracts were $125.....It was not uncommon to
> have a $1000 or more tied up in
> > one plane.....JG
> >
> > On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:17:35 -0500 Anthony
> Romano 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Buddy,
> > > Here is my view. Just finished a new plane
> > > around $2000. Now, being a
> > > competitor, I build a new more complicated,
> > > larger, more expensive plane to
> > > take advantage of the rule change and
> replace
> > > my now obsolete plane.
> > > Ignoring issue of gas such as smell, which
> now
> > > means I can't store planes in
> > > the house and the wife won't come to the
> field,
> > > struggle with the sound
> > > rule, can't fly at local field, etc.
> > > Now I am just a mediocre competitor and if
> I
> > > get a lot of time I fly my
> > > pattern plane 200 times a year. Using your
> > > figures, maybe luck but I never
> > > pay that much for fuel, I save $350
> dollars. My
> > > new plane will be paid for
> > > in around FIVE years on the savings. Add in
> the
> > > cost of new field supplies,
> > > fire extinguisher, radio upgrade to run two
> > > elevator servos, farther drive
> > > to field without noise limit, etc. Where is
> the
> > > savings?
> > > If this is the direction of pattern I am
> not
> > > interested and don't see how
> > > bigger more expensive planes will help
> > > anything. You guys are all killing me
> > > with the cost issue. The average guy at my
> > > local club has three or four 1.20
> > > size arfs with $1000 to $1200 dollars in
> each
> > > one. Look around on some of
> > > the message boards and see the number of
> people
> > > that are flying and entering
> > > giant scale. The number of people looking
> to
> > > spend $3000 and up on a bigger
> > > planes is astounding.
> > >
> > > Anthony
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Buddy Brammer"
> > > >Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > >To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > >Subject: Re: Weight Limit
> > > >Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:53:03 -0600
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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