Weight Limit problem long

[s.vannostrand at kodak.com]

I love IMAC.  Besides being a lot of fun and a break from pattern, it 
helps pattern appeal to more people.  Now Pattern is the low cost way to 
enter precision aerobatics!!
--Lance





"Tomanek, Wojtek" <tomanekw at saic-abingdon.com>
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Anthony

Completely agree with you.  Cost is just an excuse that is a convenient 
one
because no one will ever question that.   The true cause for not wanting 
to
join pattern is lack of discipline it takes to practice to be proficient 
and
competitive.  For instance a lot of people joined IMAC because it was fun
and even though they have similar judging rules they were not implemented 
as
strict as we do in pattern.  The IMAC rules are changing and their judging
is getting a lot stricter than it used to be.  Lets see how many people 
will
stick with it since it is getting to be a lot more proficient flying type 
as
opposed to just dong snaps and waterfalls.  Until now it has been a lot of
fun and games.   On the other hand yesterday I went to a combat contest -
and yes it was fun to watch but that is as far as it goes.  But for a lot 
of
RC'ers it has a lot of appeal because it does not take that much skill to
participate - you just boring holes in the sky.



        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Anthony Romano [SMTP:anthonyr105 at hotmail.com]
        Sent:   Monday, November 11, 2002 10:18 AM
        To:     discussion at nsrca.org
        Subject:        Weight Limit problem long

        Hi Buddy,
        Here is my view. Just finished a new plane around $2000. Now, 
being
a
        competitor, I build a new more complicated, larger, more expensive
plane to
        take advantage of the rule change and replace my now obsolete 
plane.

        Ignoring issue of gas such as smell, which now means I can't store
planes in
        the house and the wife won't come to the field, struggle with the
sound
        rule, can't fly at local field, etc.
        Now I am just a mediocre competitor and if I get a lot of time I 
fly
my
        pattern plane 200 times a year. Using your figures, maybe luck but 
I
never
        pay that much for fuel, I save $350 dollars. My new plane will be
paid for
        in around FIVE years on the savings. Add in the cost of new field
supplies,
        fire extinguisher, radio upgrade to run two elevator servos, 
farther
drive
        to field without noise limit, etc. Where is the savings?
        If this is the direction of pattern I am not interested and don't
see how
        bigger more expensive planes will help anything. You guys are all
killing me
        with the cost issue. The average guy at my local club has three or
four 1.20
        size arfs with $1000 to $1200 dollars in each one. Look around on
some of
        the message boards and see the number of people that are flying 
and
entering
        giant scale. The number of people looking to spend $3000 and up on 
a
bigger
        planes is astounding.

        Anthony





        >From: "Buddy Brammer" <buddybrammer35 at hotmail.com>
        >Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
        >To: discussion at nsrca.org
        >Subject: Re: Weight Limit
        >Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:53:03 -0600
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