Sequences for 2003

[glenn hatfield]

John, I second the belief that this will meet our needs.
Randy Hatfield

Fly safe and straight



----- Original Message -----
From: John Ferrell <johnferrell at earthlink.net>
Date: Friday, December 27, 2002 10:31 am
Subject: Re: Sequences for 2003

> I believe that will satisfy our needs.
> John Ferrell 
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> 
> 
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Tony Stillman 
>  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
>  Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 9:20 AM
>  Subject: Re: Sequences for 2003
> 
> 
>  Just to let everyone know, the proposal to go to an Annex system 
> has been re-submitted to AMA.  John Fuqua contacted AMA and was 
> able to come to a "compromise" that would be acceptable to AMA on 
> this issue.  
> 
>  The proposal will allow for a maneuver schedule change by NSRCA 
> making a survey of members with some choices of new schedules.  
> All maneuvers would be listed in an "annex" that the schedules 
> would be drawn up from.  Maneuvers can be added to the annex as 
> needed.  Once the membership picks a specific schedule, it would 
> be sent directly to the contest board for approval.  This should 
> only take a couple of weeks, and could done at anytime, if needed. 
> Most likely, we will only want to change schedules every two or 
> three years.  The idea is that we would not be "tied" to the AMA 
> rules cycle to make a change.  We could also "correct" any issues 
> that might arise with a particular schedule by making needed 
> changes.  
> 
>  This is not exactly what we wanted, but John feels that it is a 
> good starting point, and gets our "foot in the door" for further 
> changes down the road.  
> 
>  The main issue is that we can make changes outside of the 3-
> years rules cycle, if passed.  
> 
>     
>  Tony Stillman
>  Radio South, Inc.
>  3702 N. Pace Blvd.
>  Pensacola, Fl 32505
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>    ----- Original Message ----- 
>    From: Troy Newman 
>    To: discussion 
>    Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 2:06 AM
>    Subject: Re: Sequences for 2003
> 
> 
>    The current AMA rules allow for a 3yr cycle. There have only 
> been submissions to change the Masters sequence in 2005. There are 
> two choices for this Masters 2005-2007 sequence. No other rules 
> changes were submitted to change the AMA classes of Sportsman, 
> Intermediate, or Advanced. Now there was a proposal to change to 
> an Annex system where the NSRCA control the sequences and they can 
> change it anytime they want to. That failed already and currently 
> the people in support of this system are looking for ways to get 
> it passed by the AMA. With this exception there will be no changes 
> of the AMA Precision Aerobatics sequences until 2008. The reason 
> the current rules cycle began on Oct 1 of 2002 to make changes for 
> 2005. Since there was nothing submitted there will not be any 
> changes in 2005 except a possible switch of the masters pattern. 
> To my knowledge there are two options.
> 
>    Important thing to remember guys as was discussed at extreme 
> length the NSRCA does NOT make any rules. Whether that changes in 
> future or not is up to the AMA. BUT the NSRCA is not the holder of 
> the rules, they are not the interpreter of the rules, and the 
> NSRCA is not a ruling body. We as the NSRCA look to the AMA for 
> rules. We make suggestions both as a group and as individual 
> members and the AMA's processes control the rules. I want to make 
> a very strong point that its not some abstract group that has no 
> clue what's going on. The AMA contest board includes many and 
> mostly active flyers. There are some that are essentially inactive 
> in recent years but the Board is dominated by Pattern, IMAC 
> competitors, and TOC pilots. For the most part these guys are 
> active in the Aerobatics community and are members of the NSRCA 
> and IMAC.
> 
> 
>    The rules survey said that the responding NSRCA members 
> favored a 3yr rules cycle. This is the current AMA cycle. If 
> nobody submits a change there is no change in the current system. 
> 
>    Just some food for thought. I figured after the tongue lashing 
> given this topic over the past month it was clear. This is the way 
> the system operates TODAY....and will operate until 2005 unless a 
> Urgent change is made by the AMA.
> 
>    TN
> 
> 
>      ----- Original Message -----
>      From: JZeigenfus at aol.com
>      Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 9:11 PM
>      To: discussion at nsrca.org
>      Subject: Re: Sequences for 2003
> 
>      There are no dumb questions. The patterns are changed every 
> three years. If you go to the web site you can find the patterns 
> listed for whichever class you are going to fly in. We will be in 
> the second year of the current pattern cycle. JEZ . www.nsrca.org 
> 
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